The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes. Model:M1 Carbine. .30 M1. and the top rear is marked SAGINAW S G / 1872994. The letter P was also used as an inspection proof mark placed on carbines rebuilt by U.S. Army Ordnance. Refinished wood is normally quite easy to spot as are restruck, refreshed or enhanced stock markings. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. DIV. It's listed with Inland. Should you have any questions regarding markings, members of our forum are the best source for answers. The barrel is an Underwood barrel that was supplied to Saginaw SG. This website intentionally omits the information on which manufacturer used which inspection marks, crossed cannons, their size, and their spatial relationship to one another. Irwin-Pederson (IP) secured a contract to produce M1 Carbines for the war effort in March of 1942. It has a high wood stock and the serial number is in the 3.3 mils. Thicker wood along the right side adjacent the slide (bottom). Some of the info in the charts was extracted and reproduced from the book. 4 1/16" (approx.) Hi everyone, I acquired a Saginaw M1 carbine from a family member this morning. Therefore, just because a carbine retains its original parkerizing, this does not mean that it was never overhauled. I can't find out who made it. Manufacture date shows 9-43 with barrel date 9-43. With World War 2 M1 sling. Birch. due to a lack of original documentation. The decision for which receivers SG on left side of some receivers, not all. M1 Carbine Saginaw Type 1A barrel band complete. The rear sight is a Type I dual flip up aperture. This is due to the fact that, except for extremely late production Winchester and Inland examples, WWII carbines will have several features in common. The right side of the butt is marked with a crossed cannons cartouche and SG in a box which is a Saginaw SG mark (page 124). Some fake stock markings have recently been applied by unscrupulous people. Simi Valley, CA 93065. Therefore, if a carbine has all metal parts finished in a uniform shade of parkerizing, the weapon is not original, no matter how good it may look. This Irwin-Pedersen M1 Carbine uses almost all original Irwin-Pedersen parts that were made prior to Saginaw SG taking over. Location: Upwind of the Giant Plaster Lemon. Stocks made of Wood being wood, it is subject to cracks. The absence of the letter P in either of these locations is fairly common. American Black Walnut had a long history of That's peDersen with a "D", by the way. Most were of the flat top variety although the rounded bolts came into use by a few makers before production ceased. Forgeries are a serious concern for collectors. Overall, this rifle rates in about Very Good Plus condition as refinished. Examples being outdated parts and prototype parts that had accumulated throughout the various Serial numbered receivers transferred were not restricted to a certain block of serial numbers. Lock, Stock & Barrel Investments When the adjustable sights are removed and replaced by the correct vintage L type sight, these punch marks are often apparent and reveal the fact that a later sight was installed at one time. A little history of Saginaw (S.G.) and its carbines. Data collected Saginaw = SG; Saginaw (Grand Rapids) = SG Standard Products = S; Irwin-Pedersen = IP; IBM = B; Rock Ola = R; National Postal Meter = N; Quality Hardware = Q; Underwood = U; Therefore, for example, a carbine made by Rock Ola would be As solutions to old problems were learned, some of the same be complicated. A total of over 6.1 million M1 carbines of various models were manufactured, making it the most produced small arm for the American military during World War II (compared with The fact that the vast majority of these weapons were subsequently modified after the war during the extensive post-war overhaul (rebuilding) programs has resulted in unaltered carbines being rather elusive. Markings:There is no visible import mark. And unlike our competitors, it extends beyond the buying process. The letters were followed by The rebuilt rifles are identifiable from the markings left by the companies that rebuilt them. Barrels were a critical component in the production lines. IP used some Rockola wood at their start up. Grand Rapids, Michigan, Year of Manufacture:1942 to 1944. Numbers were issued sequentially, beginning where Anticipated shortages led to the use of yellow birch. Irwin-Pedersenran into a number of production issues and was not able to fulfill their government contract. The carbines used for this purpose were not from inventory submitted to or accepted by the government. Some stocks will also be found with contractor codes and/or inspector initials on the right side as well. There is a P stamp where it should be. Get a heads up on all of our Sales, Promotions, and news updates (about 1 email per month). The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. If a stock has the longer barrel channel and thicker wood but is absent the cutout for the There is virtually no color distinction between Generally speaking, there is nothing wrong with a competently restored carbine, Probably the quickest way to determine if a carbine remains in its as issued World War II configuration is to examine a few key parts. their historical value. No documentation from Ordnance, or any of the prime contractors, has been found that indicates the date and serial number of carbines as they were assembled or when they passed It is only fair that some context of time be added to such comments. There is also on the left side of the stock just aft the trigger guard, a square cartouche stamp with S.A. inside the square and a C stamped inside the square below the S.A. Serial numbered receivers that failed to pass inspection were set aside as rejects if the defect(s) could not be brought up to minimum standards. As time goes on more and more carbines are having parts replaced. On the outside this stock appears the same as the type III M1 stock but for the cutout for the M2 selector switch. All Rights Reserved. Location: The People's Glorious Republik of Southern Kalifornistan. A number of researchers and authors are present on the forums, helping others and seeking information for various research projects. Glad to hear it is staying with your family and hopefully they too will remain shark-free! Sights / Optics:The front sight is a bladed post set between 2 protective wings. Features include a 18" 4 groove barrel with an excellent Saginaw 15 round magazine. $145.00 ea. The resulting grooves could serve as a precision mounting for something, night-sight or other. barrel includes a date, it may provide a general idea of when the barrel was attached to the receiver. As with all used firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance requirements. At Guns.com, if an FFL is Most of these marks are light or small. 30 M1. and the top rear is marked SAGINAW SG / 3289121. After WWII Birch became much more common. This P was in a font other than sans serif, sometimes the letter P alone, within a square, or within a circle of various diameters other than 1/2". The Type I rear sight is marked with a partial S on the left, RP on the right, and RP on the front of the aperture which are Irwin-Pedersen marks (page 29). The top of the barrel is marked UNDERWOOD / 3 43 and P. It has a receiver stamped SG on the left front side, both were divisions of General Motors though. It is possible you have an S'G' barrel that was mated to a Stan Prod. What caught my eyes right at the start when I purchased the little rifle was the unusual rear sight. The rifling is sharp. It is a rare M1 Carbine that is 1 part short of being all matching. Irwin-Pedersenhad assembled only 3,542 guns at the time, none of which were accepted by the government. The front sight is marked 6 on the left and N on the top which was used by Irwin-Pedersen and others (page 56). To separate the production of each plant the prime symbol () was marked after the SG on the receivers of the Grand Rapids carbines. Are you sure it is a Saginaw? The example on the bottom of the handgrip (below) shows the circled P in san serif within a 1/2 inch diameter circle over stamped with an Ordnance rebuild P. Carbines having been rebuilt more than once will sometimes have Saginaw Steering Gear Division of General Motors Grand Rapids. Copyright 2012-document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) Barrel Date: September, 1943, Action Type:Semi Auto, Detachable Magazine. Visit our website for new treasures daily. standard for all type V M2 pot belly stocks by all manufacturers. Saginaw receivers with Saginaw serial numbers have been reported with S'G' markings. The rear sight is at the front end of the receiver; it is a one inch wide notched blade reminiscent of a revolver's rear sight. http://m1family.com/general-history-rbine-t33.html, http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/serialnumbers.html. Oval sling cut, High Wood covers slide So it's possible one of the 1,706,436 carbine barrels Underwood made got put on that Carbine. Underwood had receivers in various stages of completion left over when their contract ended. During WWII the only stocks made with Birch were made by Sprague & Carleton Co. of Keene, NH for IBM (SC-B). Black Cherry darken with age and are almost impossible to distinguish from Walnut. The underside of the handguard is marked RSG which was used by Saginaw SG and Saginaw Gear(page 138). *Post Reserved in case I run out of space*. Overall, the gun is in nice condition. found to indicate this was done by the original manufacturer(s). Got 1 ! The trigger group is marked SG on the right rear which was used by Saginaw SG and Irwin-Pedersen (page 78). The stock rates in about Very Good Plus overall condition. Among the most sought after U.S. martial arms today are original, unaltered M1 carbines remaining in their as issued WWII factory configuration. It shows light discoloration & spots of soiling on the canvas as well as scrapes on the metal. These stamps were commercially manufactured for use on the M1 Saginaw Carbines made in the original Saginaw, Michigan factory are marked S.G. or SG. Front sight marked with N. Military Crossed Cannons Cartouche on right mid stock face. numbers (i.e. would be used for the U.S. Carbine Models M1 or M1A1, and some of the M2's, were made well after the receiver was completed as all of these models used the same receiver. Early Swivels: Unmarked Late Swivels: Marked "UI" "U" -Winchester: Didn't Saginaw SG guns were produced from the remnants of the failed Irwin-Pedersen factory in Grand Rapids. No matter what you hunt, or what type of gun you prefer to hunt with, Guns.com offers options for everyone. American Black Walnut was the most common wood used. Contracts had a completion date but there was no requirement for completing one contract before starting another. This is not an accurate means of estimating the date the carbine was finally assembled or when it passed its final inspection. It is in about Very Good Plus overall condition. of 0.3. There is fouling and intermittent light erosion in the grooves. The left side of the receiver (under the wood) has a tooling hole at the rear. These rub marks are frequently apparent when the narrow band is installed, and is a sure sign that a later vintage barrel band was on the carbine at one time. There are four basic types of markings which may or may not be found on the U.S. Carbine stocks. The receiver is marked SG under the wood and uses a wide locking tang. None of the carbines produced by Irwin-Pedersen (IP) were accepted by Ordnance. GENERAL MOTORS 12-43. Our research indicates that it is an Irwin-Pedersen subcontractor mark from the Keller Bras Company. Only Irwin-Pedersen & Saginaw SG receivers were produced with a tooling hole (page 22 of Craig Rieschs book, U.S. M1 Carbines Wartime Production 7th Edition). I've had this M1 Carbine for about 20-years. barrel channel (top) We did not fire this rifle. Bogus trolling question. Thank you. CARBINE / CAL. Early Swivels: Unmarked Late Swivels: Marked "UI" "U" -Winchester: Didn't mark them. The stock shows several scrapes, scratches, and compression marks. Markings per component: -Barrel Bands -Type 1 (Early Narrow Band) -Inland: Marked "UI" "U" Or unmarked. fire carbines like the M2's. We buy and sell collectible firearms and militaria ranging from the Civil War to Desert Storm, specializing in WW1 & WW2. These receivers were purchased by Winchester. After determining that the parts appear to be of the proper vintage and coded to match the prime contractor, the finish of the metal should be considered. Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you. Late during the production of their type III M1 stocks, Winchester and Inland increased the length If inventory ran out it could shut down production. Irwin-Pedersendid not produce barrels. Is it SAGINAW S.G. or SAGINAW S'G'? Underwood name removed, Winchester name & s/n, Underwood name not lined out, Underwood s/n, Inland s/n'd receivers sent to National Postal Meter, Inland s/n'd receivers from SI subcontract sent to Underwood, Inland s/n'd receivers from SG subcontract sent to Underwood, Irwin Pedersen s/n'd receivers sent to Underwood, Underwood s/n'd receivers sent to National Postal Meter, IBM s/n'd receivers from AO subcontract sent to National Postal Meter, IBM duplicated some of s/n's they assigned to AO, Overrun into unassigned s/n block & Winchester s/n's, Machine error duplicating Winchester s/n's. Make:Irwin-Pedersen. The trigger group is marked IP on the right rear which is a Irwin-Pedersen mark (page 78). The key parts to observe are the rear sight, bolt, stock, safety and barrel band. The rifle comes with a 15 round magazine. Photograph has been reversed to show the appearance of markings that would be produced by the fake stamps. Our Assessment:ThisSaginaw SG M1 Carbine was built sometime between 1942 and 1944 from the remaining parts at the failed Irwin-Pedersen factory in Grand Rapids. It also has a S'G' stock and hand guard with an IP butt plate. There are some exceptions to this rule as several prime contractors are known to have utilized parts made for other prime contractors. It will add to your WWII collection. It's the first I've seen. The top of the barrel is marked UNDERWOOD / 9 43 and P. These stamps were commercially manufactured for use on the It must be noted that a number of the prime contractors did not manufacture barrels and used those made by other firms. .. Swivels: Unmarked -Underwood: Didn't mark them. They put on the Mauser type rear sight and milled the original rear sight pedestal to reduce glare. Typically these punch marks are rather deep and readily apparent. Read about the Saginaw (S.G.) carbines and history here: Please don't Private Message me for Carbine questions. Copyright 2011-2023 All Rights Reserved. Where the standard rear sight would be there is a pedestal, the top of which has been milled. As issued, carbine stocks had a raised grain and generally had a dull finish. 217: M1 Carbine Barrel Band Type 3 (Bayonet lug)Used G.I. The sling is marked with a blurred stamping between the buckle & strap. This isnt to say that there is anything wrong with such a piece, but if someone is looking for an original WWII carbine, they need to keep looking. Two of the most significant areas to observe are the barrel and rear sight base. Therefore, if any other carbine has this type of barrel band, it is not all original. Skip to the beginning of the images gallery, 73 Plank Ave Paoli, Do you have anything on safeties? Thinning on the trigger group. The smooth push button safety is marked E-SG which is a Saginaw SG mark (page 95 & 185). Carbines having any other letter(s) on the receiver are beyond the scope of the information on this particular page. receivers were brought back online and completed (i.e. Boasting classy lines, a well-recognized pedigree, and great ergos for a small all-steel gun, Smith & Wessons take on the Walther PPK/s aimed to revive an old carry king in the increasingly polymer-focused concealed carry market. The barrel shows scrapes & small scratches as well as discoloration from oxidation and from the cold blue. GENERAL MOTORS" It has been fitted with the adjustable sight, type 3 barrel band, and rotary safety sometime in If a Saginaw S'G' strip it down to see if it has any IP Irwin Peterson parts, could be a transitional carbine. The Irwin-Pedersen contracts were terminated by Ordnance. I have a Saginaw M1 Carbine. Sling cut changed from the I cut to the Oval cut for expediency in production. Action Type: Semi Auto, Detachable Magazine. Given the high volume of production, receivers were generally assembled as part of a carbine within a few months after the receiver was serial numbered. Underwood supplied barrels for Saginaw SG (page 50). You certain the receiver is S'G'? If the sight is covering the name, you should be able to make out an 'S' on the left side, and maybe a 'D' or a '.' except stock which is Inland 1943. They should not be altered or fired. Sights / Optics:The front sight is a bladed post set between 2 protective wings. Ordnance depots outside the continental U.S. and foreign facilities contracted by U.S. They didn't come any other way--period. While a crack can happen anywhere in the stock there are several places it was more prone to happen than anywhere else. During the course of production of the Type III stock for the M1 Carbine several manufacturers began making changes Post WWII, the Office of the Chief of Ordnance (OCO) assigned replacement numbers to armories, arsenals, and depots They made 7 of the parts including receivers, but no barrels, between May of '43 and Jan., of '44. The bolt is marked SG on the right lug which was used by Saginaw SG and Irwin-Pedersen (page 36). The fact that the vast majority of these weapons were subsequently modified after the war during the extensive post-war overhaul (rebuilding) programs has resulted in unaltered carbines being rather elusive. Please don't Private Message me for Carbine questions. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for M1 Carbine, Buttplate I believe to be for Saginaw and Inland. The most prominent marks are on the handguard. -Saginaw (S.G.): Marked Right Side: "PO" "SG" -No other contractor made these -Type III (Post War) -Could be marked: "SA" "RIA" "P" "R" -Bolts -Type I (Flat Bolt) -Inland: community. If a carbine appears to have all of the proper vintage, correctly coded parts and doesnt seem to have been refinished, the possibility exists that the weapon has been correctly restored. It must not be inferred that if a carbine has a round bolt or an adjustable rear sight, it has been altered. An Ordnance supplement Not consenting or withdrawing consent, may adversely affect certain features and functions. Over 6 million were made by a number of U.S. companies to assist with the all out war effort. Made in the Winter of 1943. There is a difference. Read about the Saginaw (S.G.) carbines here: Serial number blocks assigned by the government. The top front of the receiver is marked U.S. Oval sling cut, Low Wood exposes slide. This change was not implemented in conjunction with the longer barrel channel Some restorers have attempted to file down the sight base to reduce or eliminate the punch marks but this normally requires reparkerizing to hide the work. The above hints are no substitute for a thorough examination of a carbine by someone knowledgeable on the subject. of 0.5. There is no bayonet lug. WWII "Saginaw" M1 Carbine Converted to a Fully Automatic M2 ConfigurationThis is an example of an original WWII production M1 carbine as produced by the Saginaw Steering Gear Company, that was later converted and registered as a fully automatic M2 type carbine. Occasionally, an L type sight might cover most of the circular punch marks so close examination should be performed to ascertain whether these exist. This resulted in an unknown number of "presentation" carbines possibly having the same serial number as the earlier Engineering carbines. How much is a CMP Garand worth? A M1 GARAND rifle is currently worth an average price of $2,024.47 new and $1,615.82 used . How much is an M1 Garand in 2020? M1C Garand Sniper Model These marking(s) and their location(s) varied based on needs and/or intent. As originally manufactured, many of the parts were stamped with initials of the prime contractor and, in some cases, the subcontractor that actually manufactured the part. We offer a 7 day inspection period and hassle free returns to ensure every customer is happy with whatever they buy from us. SIG Sauer MCX Review: Next-Gen Modern Sporting Rifle? The barrel has been treated with cold blue. organized, dont tell you a lot about what youre buying, and leave you on your during the time the carbines were manufactured. The stock was cut to accommodate the selector switch located on the left side of the receiver. Overall, the gun is in nice condition. On the inside it has the longer barrel channel and thicker wood to strengthen the stock. The barrel is marked "SAGINAW S.G. DIV. C+B I.I.P. Receiver or barrel or? As stated, the overwhelming majority of carbines were overhauled by the government after WWII and many of the original parts replaced by later pattern parts. The M1 Carbine was widely issued to U.S. Military Forces which numbered over 16 million during WWII. The two most common types of wood used for caliber .30 carbine stocks and handguards were American Black Walnut and Yellow Birch. The buttplate shows light scrapes & some discoloration along the edge. And here are some as yet unidentified maker's marks (Please send me an e-mail if you know for certain who made these. over the years has sometimes conflicted with the information in these documents. on the right. Letter prefixes X through XD were initially allocated by Inland for carbines intended for internal use only. Click Here to view our Gunbroker page! Product Information & Specs. 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